So it seems possible for Excalibur to be the first and for Ballas to have turned that Dax into a modified Excalibur later. Alse we do "resurrect" Umbra with our foundary. Plus we are able to just reproduce frames at our leisure and Varzia seems to canonize the ability to replicate Primes. To my understanding it seems safe to assume that there were multiple of each frame since the Lua Reservoir shows hundreds of pods, and duplicates seems more likely than hundreds of unique frames. I'm no expert on the subject so take what I say with a grain of salt. This implies that the third possibility is that excalibur wasn't the first warframe and the description is not accurate.ġ- There are slighty modified versions of some warframe and two different people would absolutely give the same warframe ( so where are all these variations ? )Ģ- There is another message that was intended to the sentients that we just never heard of, and that message ( the vitruvian in the sacrifice) was a second draft.ģ- Excalibur description is false and does not reflect what cannonically happened in game either because it's obsolete or told by a character that only knew a sort of official version of facts.Ĥ- There is another solution that i didn't think about Edited Septemby Ice-Ragex Meaning that the orokin didn't actually "turn to the void in desperation " because the coid was precisely the way they planned to control the sentients. We know thanks to entrati dad that warframe are the second generation of transference based technology, the necramech being the first.Īnd we also know that the sentient flaw was actually by design. Or umbra was actually the first warframe meaning that ballas had another message to the sentient and the message evolved once it was discovered. So either there are slightly modified version of some frame that exist ( which sort of conflict with the exceptional individual for exceptional frames ) However, prime excalibur already exist, and the warframe to be depicted as the first is the basic one.Īlso since we've specifically seen umbra creation and know warframe are made the same way, if excalibur umbra was NOT the first one this mean that two totally different people did create almost exactly the same warframe ( with sentient slaying capabilities for umbra ) So this pretty much solved the mystery about "non orokin made warframe"īut one warframe specifically has shown us the process of it's creation, this warframe is umbra. It is explicitly being said in game that excalibur is the first warframe, and we also know that some warframe were initially primed and then got a knockoff version and other warframe were promoted. Recently i've been on the warframe subreddit and noticed a certain post talking about the "first warframe" The third best is Warcry, and Roar/Eclipse/Empower are fourth place, with Empower possibly edging out the first two options in fourth place depending on your total power strength before its bonus.Hello, i've had a question where i need to know the answer, TL DR: In my opinion Breach Surge is probably his best option, followed closely by Rage from Rest & Rage. Of particular note is the synergy Excalibur has with Breach Surge, wherein blinded enemies always release a surge spark, and Excalibur has on-demand blind through his second skill. Roar and Eclipse aren't the best due to the penalty to the damage bonuses they receive through the Helminth system, but are still usable. Out of the options, I'd lean towards Breach Surge and Rage being the strongest due to them being multiplicative damage bonuses applied to total damage after mods. Other good options are Warcry (Valkyr), Rest & Rage (the Rage version, Equinox), Eclipse (if you can deal with its damage buff being inconsistent, Mirage), Roar (Rhino), and Breach Surge (Wisp). Empower is a good, low-investment choice on him because it gives a 50% power strength boost to his next 4 cast for as long as you keep that cast active.
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